Hello. Well Jo, I remember Saw 3 & 4 having new encryption which took Slysoft and the dvdfab teams a few days to beat. Saw 3 was my first time using aD, and the number of threads was astounding. I think I had to go thru 7 or 8 before I found the correct one. Each other one I clicked on was shut down after 8 or 9 posts before I found the "official" one